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Women in
Ministry:
What is your position on women in ministry?
Should Messianic women be allowed to be
teachers, pastors/rabbis, or occupy positions of
leadership?
This is an issue that as of
today, there will be no Messianic consensus.
There will be teachers, congregations, and
organizations that oppose women in positions of
pastoral leadership, and there will be teachers,
congregations, and organizations that support
women in positions of pastoral leadership. Not
surprisingly, the position that the editor holds
is largely his own.
The common passage used against
women in ministry is 1 Timothy 2:11-12: “A woman
must quietly receive instruction with entire
submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to
teach or exercise authority over a man, but to
remain quiet.” Those who oppose women in
positions of leadership place a very strong
emphasis on these verses. Many believe that Paul
has just issued a moratorium on all women in
ministry for all time. It is not difficult to
see why the current feminist movement has
claimed that much of Christianity (and too a
lesser extent Judaism) is dominated by male
chauvinists, and why liberals largely discount 1
Timothy and the other Pastoral Epistles (2
Timothy and Titus) as authentically Pauline.
What do we do with 1 Timothy 2:11-12?
In the Hebrew Tanach, we
certainly see some women in positions of
critical leadership. Heroines such as Deborah
(Judges 4-5), Ruth, and Esther are certainly
godly women to be considered as models of
service. In significant sectors of Judaism, the
issue of women in leadership is not as severe as
it is in evangelical Christianity (and by
extension the Messianic community) because there
are significant examples of women leading others
in the Tanach. These
examples cannot be disregarded in any
examination of whether or not women should be
allowed to occupy positions of spiritual
leadership.
While the evil woman Queen
Jezebel is often cited as the example of what
will happen should women be placed in any
positions of spiritual authority—as “Jezebel”
represents the epitome of an evil, controlling
woman—Jezebel likely receives too much attention
at the expense of all of the evil men
seen in Scripture. While Jezebel is targeted as
the epitome of evil women—what one single
male example could be given to represent evil
men? Pharaoh, Haman, (Antiochus Epiphanes),
Judas Iscariot, the antichrist? This is
difficult for many to determine. Many claim that
if women are given positions of spiritual
authority that things will run amok, but this is
a patently weak argument in view of the fact
that there are scores of examples where men have
controlled things and problems have abounded.
Both men and women are equally guilty of causing
problems for the ekklēsia.
In the Apostolic Scriptures
themselves, we do see women take on a
significant role in leadership. In Galatians
3:28, Paul says “There is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither slave nor free man, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in
Messiah Yeshua.” There is a status of unity for
those with faith in Yeshua the Messiah where
gender roles do not significantly matter.
Following Paul’s visit to Philippi in Acts 16,
it is the female Lydia who leads the new group
of Believers, and Paul’s letter to the
Philippians includes a reference to two women,
Euodia and Syntyche (Philippians 4:2), who
presumably occupy positions of leadership. Paul
extends greetings to a female apostle, “Junia,”
in Romans 16:7 (NRSV, ESV, HCSB). And, we cannot
forget the wife-husband teaching duo of
Priscilla and Aquila in Acts 18.
If there are witnesses in the
Pauline corpus and Book of Acts to women being
in positions of leadership in the local
assemblies, then is Paul contradicting himself
in 1 Timothy 2:11-12? Or, is there a part of
Paul’s letter to Timothy that is commonly missed
or not considered?
To accurately understand Paul’s
remarks about women not teaching, we have to
consider what 1 Timothy probably meant for the
circumstances Timothy faced while overseeing his
assemblies in and around Ephesus. For the
cultural norms of the day, Paul’s instruction “I
want
women to adorn themselves with
proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not
with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly
garments” (1 Timothy 2:9) were undeniably
appropriate. Braided hair, gold, pearls, and
expensive clothing would have been considered
signs of opulence. Are these signs of opulence
today? Some who embrace a strict reading of the
text, as though it speaks directly to all
generations and all cultures at all
times—without any kind of consideration for
ancient history—would say yes. The editor is a
bit more cautious in making this extrapolation,
and would not argue that this is a
prohibition for women wearing these things for
all time. A value judgment regarding ancient and
modern culture, and what is considered “modest,”
has to be made
When Paul further admonishes
Timothy, “A woman must quietly receive
instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do
not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority
over a man, but to remain quiet” (1 Timothy
2:11-12), additional considerations have to be
made. If Paul considers that a significant
degree of gender barriers have been lifted in
Yeshua (Galatians 3:28), has he contradicted
himself? (Is this Deutero-Pauline as liberals
claim?) Or, have circumstances arisen in Ephesus
that require him to tell Timothy to pull back
the reigns on the involvement of the women in
the assemblies he oversees?
It must be noted that the verb
authenteō (auqentew)
is rendered as “usurp authority” in the KJV, and
this can significantly alter our perception of
the circumstances in Ephesus that Timothy was
facing. We know that there were women in
positions of leadership in the First Century
ekklēsia, per the examples of Lydia, Euodia,
Syntyche, Priscilla, and Junia. Is it possible
that with the spread of the gospel, women in
Timothy’s Ephesian congregations were feeling
“liberated”—and “liberated” so much so that they
tried to usurp the authority of the
already existent male leadership?
If Paul’s admonition to Timothy
more specifically concerns women usurping
leadership in the congregation, then his
words “A woman must be a learner, listening
quietly and with due submission” (1 Timothy
2:11, NEB), can be more easily understood. Women
in the First Century Greek world were largely
uneducated, untaught, or untrained (and
illiterate). Men, on the contrary, were those
who were largely allowed to be given some kind
of schooling. If the women in Timothy’s
congregation—the untaught, uneducated women—were
trying to usurp the authority of the taught,
trained men, Paul would absolutely want them to
remain quiet and submissively learn. Many of
these women could speak about things they knew
little or nothing about, either from the
Scriptures or society in general, and Paul would
want them to be prepared by the men who
already had schooling (and were literate).
(Of course, the ramifications of
this view are quite severe for any religious
movement since. If Paul’s argument more
specifically concerns First Century untaught and
untrained females usurping the position of
taught and trained males in the ekklēsia,
then a modern day application could be that
either unqualified females or males
are prohibited from usurping the position of
those qualified for positions of spiritual
leadership. This asks today’s Messianic movement
questions it is largely unprepared to answer.)
With this in mind, we also have
to consider what Paul means afterward in 1
Timothy 2:13-15:
“For it was Adam who was first
created, and then Eve. And it was
not Adam who was deceived, but the woman
being deceived, fell into transgression. But
women will be preserved through the bearing
of children if they continue in faith and love
and sanctity with self-restraint.”
Vs. 13-14 can be interpreted that
since it was Eve who was deceived by the serpent
in the Garden of Eden that women are less
intelligent and more susceptible to sin than
men. From Paul’s First Century vantage point to
Timothy—largely dealing with untrained,
unschooled Greek women in Ephesus—this would
have been an accurate statement. These women
would be very susceptible to deception. But this
is not an accurate statement to make in either
Twenty-First Century America or the West because
women today largely have the same educational
and societal opportunities as men. Paul’s
statement in vs. 13-14 is a definite reflection
on the social climate of his day.
Continuing, v. 15 can be
interpreted as meaning that the only place for
women in the assembly is to be mothers and raise
children. But there is a translation issue that
needs to be considered for women “saved through
bearing children” (RSV). The Greek clause dia
tēs teknogonias (dia
thß teknogoniaß)
is literally “through the child-bearing” (YLT),
including the definite article. The New
Oxford Annotated Bible notes,
“This much debated verse has also
been translated (1) ‘she will be saved through
the birth of the Child’ [referring to Jesus
Christ], or (b) ‘she will be brought safely
through childbirth’” (pp 1441-1442).
The emphasis in v. 15 appears to
more specifically be on “the Childbearing,” who
is Yeshua the Messiah, rather than a physical
act of giving birth to children. Thus, Paul’s
instruction to Timothy in Ephesus is that these
women are to seek their salvation in Him, and
continue in proper faith, holiness, and piety.
It is not a statement that women should just be
placed in the corner and remain perpetually
pregnant, completely oblivious to what goes on
in a male dominated and male controlled
congregation, male leaders that they are—for all
time—to blindly follow without question.
The editor is personally
convinced that when 1 Timothy 2:11-12 is weighed
with the heroines of the Tanach, and other
examples of women in positions of leadership in
the Apostolic Scriptures, that there is no
major or substantial basis for excluding women
from positions of leadership in the assembly
today. The major thing to consider for such
individuals holding positions of leadership,
either as pastors/rabbis of local assemblies or
greater positions, is not gender
but is having the right qualifications. What
makes this a controversial view is that it
assumes that today’s leaders in the current,
largely male-dominated Messianic movement have
the right qualifications (and some may not).
In time, especially as
evangelical Christianity continues to struggle
with the issues of women in ministry, so will
today’s Messianic community likewise have to
struggle with them. At present, forming any kind
of consensus seems unlikely.
posted 27 September, 2007
Works of the
Law:
I have heard a teaching which stated that the
term “works of the Law” actually refers to
Rabbinical extra-Biblical commandments? Is there
any substantiation for this?
There is some substantiation for
believing that when the Apostle Paul uses the
phrase “works of the Law” that something other
than general Torah observance is being
specified. Extrapolating this a reference to the
Oral Torah as seen in the Mishnah and Talmud is
going a bit too far, and would be removed
from the primary arguments seen in Paul’s
letters to the Galatians and the Romans. The
proposal that is currently being made by
advocates of the New Perspective of Paul (NPP)
in theological studies is that ergōn nomou
(ergwn
nomou),
“works of law,” largely corresponds to religious
characteristics that were distinctively Jewish,
yet recognizable by their Greek and Roman
neighbors. They were regulations that kept the
Jewish and non-Jewish communities separate. The
term ergōn nomou is likely Paul’s Greek
equivalent of the Hebrew ma’asei haTorah
(hrwth
yX[m).
This is not found in the Hebrew Tanach, but is
employed in the Dead Sea Scrolls to relate to
the community’s distinct religious halachah:
“Now we have written to you some
of the works of the Law [Heb.
miqsat ma’asei ha-Torah,
hrwth yX[m tcqm],
those which we determined would be beneficial
for you and your people, because we have seen
[that] you possess insight and knowledge of the
Law” (4Q399).
This statement is made after the
Qumran community lays forth “A Sectarian
Manifesto” (Wise, Abegg, and Cook, The Dead
Sea Scrolls: A New Translation, p 364)
regarding some observances that members of their
order are to observe. These communal regulations
largely regard ritual purity and who is, and who
is not, allowed into their camp. As it
has been observed, “only the Manifesto
and Paul’s Letters to the Galatians and Romans
discuss the connection between works and
righteousness” (Ibid.), and indeed the major
thrust of both of those letters is that one
gains entry among God’s community via faith in
His Son and not “works.” Today among advocates
of the NPP, it is suggested that when Paul uses
ergōn nomou he is using it in a similar
way to how it is used in 4QMMT among the DSS.
“Works of law” is used by Paul a
total of six times in Galatians (2:16; 3:2, 5,
10), and is only used elsewhere in his letter to
the Romans (3:20, 28). Generally speaking,
common Christian interpretations of this phrase
have advocated that ergōn nomou or “works
of law” means “observing the law” (NIV), meaning
some kind of Torah observance. It has only been
in recent days with the proposals made by NPP
that ergōn nomou takes on something
different than just rote observance of the
Mosaic Law. These propositions have
significantly aided Messianic understanding of
Paul’s words (cf. Tim Hegg, A Study of
Galatians, 11), as Paul is criticizing a
sectarian observance of the Torah that impedes
God’s mission of blessing all nations (Genesis
12:2; Galatians 3:8-9), rather than observance
of the Torah itself.
Of course, there is considerable
discussion as to whether or not when Paul uses
ergōn nomou he is really connecting it to
some of the ideas we see present in ma’asei
haTorah in 4QMMT. Many, acknowledging a
connection, believe that the “works of law” of
which Paul speaks are “the boundary markers that
clearly distinguished Jews from their
neighbors—circumcision, the sabbath, and the
purity laws” (James W. Thompson, “works,” in
EDB, 1387). There are, however, Christian
theologians who are resistant to “works of law”
having any technical reference to either
boundary markers, or to the halachah of a
sectarian community. Those who are resistant are
often so because it requires one to take a more
moderate view of the Torah in Pauline
literature. As T.R. Schreiner argues, “the
expression ‘works’ (erga) in Paul refers
to ‘deeds that are performed,’ and thus ‘works
of Law’ signifies the ‘deeds’ or ‘actions’
demanded by the Mosaic Law” (“works of the law,”
in Dictionary of Paul and His Letters,
977).
It would certainly be
irresponsible of us to think that any time Paul
uses the term “works” he is speaking of “works
of law.” He uses most often “works” as
comparable to “deeds.” Likewise, when Paul uses
“works of law” or ergōn nomou, the Torah
is somehow involved. The question is whether
these “works of law” are simply “doing what
the Law commanded” (Ibid.), or we might say,
doing what the Torah commanded in a
particular way. If it is the latter, than it
can reorient our interpretation of some of
Paul’s words in Galatians and Romans. Paul’s
argument would not be against “the Torah” per
se, but rather its application by a particular
sector of the ancient Messianic community.
Galatians 2:15, 16 give us some clues that
ergōn nomou is likely Paul’s Greek
equivalent of ma’asei haTorah, especially
considering the way he addresses Peter. In v. 15
he tells Peter hēmeis phusei Ioudaioi (hmeiß
fuseß Ioudaioß),
“we are Jews by nature,” continuing in v.
16 with eidotes de hoti ou dikaioutai
anthrōpos ex ergōn nomou (eidoteß
[de]
oti ou dikaioutai anqrwpoß
ex ergwn nomou),
“nevertheless knowing that a man is not
justified by works of the Law.” The verb
eidotes is a masculine plural participle,
indicating that “we know” (NEB, NRSV, ESV). In
other words, Paul is communicating to Peter as a
fellow Jew, and we can deduce that as Jews they
had some ideas as to what “works of law” meant
as a technical phrase.
Christian commentators
recognizing the connection have only so far been
able to concede that “works of law” in the
Pauline corpus pertain to Jewish identity
markers. So, while not being obedience to the
Mosaic Torah, per se, “works of the law” were
those things that were to clearly separate
Israel from the Gentile world around it, namely
the Sabbath, appointed times, and dietary laws
(cf. James D.G. Dunn, Jesus, Paul and the
Law: Studies in Mark and Galatians, pp
218-220). While this may prove discouraging to
some Messianic interpreters—as these are three
elements of Biblical practice that we believe
God is restoring to His people—the discussion of
“works of law” being something else than Torah
observance as a whole certainly opens up our
interpretational possibilities. Likewise, as
Dunn describes it, it should allow us to see the
corporate, and not just the individualistic
aspect, of justification:
“‘[W]orks of the law’ have for
too long been understood as ‘good works by which
individuals try to gain acceptance by God’; that
fundamental misunderstanding has skewed the
whole exegesis of the letter, distorting or
concealing the Jewish (as well as Christian)
recognition of the priority of God’s grace, and
losing sight of the corporate dimension of the
discussion of an individualistic doctrine of
justification by faith” (Ibid., 246).
A good way to synthesize the two
somewhat competing concepts of (1) “works of
law” only being observing the Torah, and (2)
“works of law” only being the halachah of
a sectarian community, is (3) recognizing
“works of law” as the halachah of a
sectarian community, but as a subset of general
“works.” From this point of view, when Paul
says in Galatians 2:16 that “a man is not
justified by works of the Law,” he does
legitimately speak of “observing the law” (NIV)
to attain justification. At the same time,
though, concurrent with Paul’s specific
incident with Peter in Antioch (Galatians
2:14), and what he wants the Galatians to
understand, “works of law” keys us in to how a
particular group has decided to apply the Torah.
Observing “works of law” then relates to how
one is keeping the Torah, more than just keeping
it. The clear emphasis for Paul is that
“justification”—being a part of God’s covenant
community—comes via faith in His Messiah, not
following the halachah or identity
barriers of a particular sect or clique.
The controversial part of not
being “justified” by “works of law,”
particularly for some from more fundamental
Christian backgrounds, is believing that
“justification” is more than just an
individual’s vindication before God via the work
of His Son. Given the usage of tzedaqah (hqdc)
in parts of the Tanach pertaining to Israel’s
status before God, and the issues that Paul is
facing in Galatians (and to a lesser extent
Romans) pertaining to the non-Jews’ inclusion in
the community of faith, such justification is
also corporate—not just individualistic.
One’s entry into God’s covenant community is not
“works of law,” namely the halachah of a
particular group (in the specific case of
Galatians, those requiring ritual
circumcision)—but it is faith in the Messiah of
Israel. While individual justification may
come first, a clear result of that is being
in covenant relationship with one’s brothers and
sisters who have also been redeemed.
“Works of law” being the
particular halachah of a sectarian
community gives much not only for the
contemporary Church to consider, but also for
today’s Messianic community. Do we allow people
to join our assemblies because they have made a
proclamation of faith in Yeshua? Or, in the case
of some Messianic congregations, because they
fit a series of requirements? Today in some
sectors of the Messianic community, non-Jewish
Believers are spurned unless they undergo some
kind of ritual “conversion” that only the
denomination can offer. But this goes against
Paul’s clear instruction. Not only does one’s
personal redemption not come from keeping “works
of law,” but one’s inclusion among God’s people
is not to occur from “works of law” either.
Instead, one is to stand justified before God on
the basis of faith in Him, and one is to be
accepted in the ekklēsia on the basis of
faith in Him.
(This entry includes excerpts
adapted from the editor’s forthcoming commentary
Galatians for the Practical Messianic,
Second Edition.)
updated 27 September, 2007
Wrath, spared
from:
How do you, as a post-tribulational ministry,
respond to the fact that we are spared from
God’s wrath? Does this not mean that we are
spared from the horrors of the Tribulation
period?
No one can deny the clear
Biblical reference of 1 Thessalonians 5:9: “For
God has not destined us for wrath, but for
obtaining salvation through our Lord Yeshua the
Messiah.” Neither this, nor other passages such
as Romans 5:9 are in dispute by us as post-tribulationists.
However, it is important that we determine
what the wrath of God is, something very
few pre-tribulationists do. Pre-tribulationists
errantly consider the entire Tribulation period
to be God’s wrath.
There are two primary Greek words
used in the Apostolic Scriptures translated as
“wrath” in our English Bibles: orgē (orgh)
and thumos (qumoß),
each indicative of a particular type of wrath or
anger of God.
BDAG
defines orgē as “strong indignation
directed at wrongdoing, w. focus on retribution,
wrath” (p 720). This is necessary to
understand because it indicates that orgē
“wrath” is most often reserved for the Divine
punishment of God on sinners in His eternal
punishment upon them. Thayer adds to
this, telling us that orgē is indicative
of “anger exhibited in punishing, hence
used for the punishment
itself” (p 452).
Thumos,
on the other hand is described as “a state of
intense displeasure, anger, wrath, rage,
indignation” (BDAG, 461).
Thayer remarks that it means “passion,
angry heat…anger forthwith boiling up and
soon subsiding again” (p 293). This does not
indicate a “wrath” that is constant, but one
that is only momentary.
The comparison of these two words
is that orgē “denotes indignation
which has arisen gradually and becomes more
settled” (Ibid.) Orgē is the Divine
wrath used to describe eternal punishment of
unbelievers, whereas thumos is used to
describe the anger of God poured out during the
Tribulation period.
Interestingly enough, the only
times the word orgē (Divine wrath) is
used in the Book of Revelation are in a post-tribulational
context (6:16, 17; 11:18; 14:10; 16:19; 19:15).
It is used after the sixth seal (Revelation
6:16-17), the seventh (or the last) trumpet
(Revelation 11:18), the seventh vial/bowl
(Revelation 16:19), and is most importantly used
to describe the eternal punishment of the
condemned in the Lake of Fire (Revelation
14:10). Believers are indeed spared from the
orgē wrath of God, as (1) the orgē or
Divine wrath of God is poured out after the
Tribulation period, and (2) the orgē
of God is for those who reject the Messiah and
suffer eternal punishment.
It should also be noted that
numerous references exist throughout the Tanach
or Hebrew Scriptures describe that the judgment
of God is poured out on the Day of the
Lord
(Isaiah 13:6, 9; Ezekiel 30:3; 1:15; 2:1; 31;
3:14; Amos 5:18; 20; Obadiah 1:15; Zephaniah
1:14; Malachi 4:5.). Although there are numerous
interpretations that are given for the term
“day,” more often than naught this is in
reference to the time when Yeshua returns and
defeats His enemies at Armageddon, initiating
His Millennial reign. As Nahum 1:2 proclaims, “A
jealous and avenging God is the
Lord;
the Lord
is avenging and wrathful. The
Lord
takes vengeance on His adversaries, and He
reserves wrath for His enemies.” Presumably,
before the Day of the
Lord takes place, Believers have been removed from Planet
Earth, because the wrath of God is reserved for
the unrighteous.
The Apostolic Scriptures also
speak of the Day of the
Lord,
which we should most certainly presume is the
same event spoken of by the Prophets in the
Tanach (cf. Acts 2:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:2;
2 Peter 3:10). The Word of God is clear
that during this time period His wrath will be
poured out. But what do we define as the wrath
of God? The Apostle Paul offers us a fairly good
explanation:
“For the wrath [orgē]
of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who
suppress the truth in unrighteousness…But
because of your stubbornness and unrepentant
heart you are storing up wrath [orgē]
for yourself in the day of wrath [orgē]
and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
who will
render to each person according to his deeds”
(Romans 1:18; 2:5-6).
“But immorality or any impurity
or greed must not even be named among you, as is
proper among saints; and there must be no
filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting,
which are not fitting, but rather giving of
thanks. For this you know with certainty, that
no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who
is an idolater, has an inheritance in the
kingdom of Messiah and God. Let no one deceive
you with empty words, for because of these
things the wrath [orgē]
of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
Therefore do not be partakers with them”
(Ephesians 5:3-7).
The above Scripture quotations
from Romans 1:18, 2:4-6, and Ephesians 5:3-7
both speak of wrath or orgē of God in
regard to eternal damnation. Thumos, on
the other hand, is indicative more of the
anger of God, not always related to eternal
punishment. In some instances, it is notable
that thumos is also used to describe the
wrath, or indignation or anger, of Satan. The
following are a selection of quotations from the
Book of Revelation where thumos is used:
“For this reason, rejoice, O
heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the
earth and the sea, because the devil has come
down to you, having great wrath [thumos],
knowing that he has only a short time”
(Revelation 12:12).
“So the angel swung his sickle to
the earth and gathered the clusters from
the vine of the earth, and threw them into the
great wine press of the wrath [thumos] of
God. And the wine press was trodden outside the
city, and blood came out from the wine press, up
to the horses' bridles, for a distance of two
hundred miles” (Revelation 14:19-20).
“Then I saw another sign in
heaven, great and marvelous, seven angels who
had seven plagues, which are the last,
because in them the wrath [thumos] of God
is finished” (Revelation 15:1).
In determining what the wrath of
God actually encompasses, we would suggest that
you be sure of what Greek word is used in the
source text, and then compare the context of the
passage. Ultimately, the wrath of God is eternal
damnation, which all Believers, Tribulation
saints or otherwise, will be spared from.
However, once defining what the “wrath of God”
actually is, and distinguishing the Greek words
orgē and thumos, we can then begin
to address the more important question: Will
Believers experience hard times? This is a
question that many pre-tribulationists answer
incorrectly.
Many popular pre-tribulationists
say, “Why would anyone want to go through the
Tribulation?” They would be correct as no one
should want to go through the Tribulation. By no
means is experiencing the Tribulation something
one should ever wish for.
But, many of the same pre-tribulationists
prey on people’s emotions rather
than dealing with the facts that Believers in
the Messiah have and will experience hard
times—something American Christianity has
never really had to face. We would be keen to
heed the Prophet Isaiah’s words: “I seek You
with all the spirit within me. For when Your
judgments are wrought on earth, the inhabitants
of the world learn righteousness. But when the
scoundrel is spared, he learns not
righteousness” (Isaiah 26:9b-10a, NJPS).
(This entry includes adapted
quotations from the editor’s book
The Dangers of
Pre-Tribulationism.)
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