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Daniel 3:25: I have heard it said that Yeshua was present with the three men in
the fiery furnace. To what degree might this be
true?
The three Jews: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego
were thrown into the fiery furnace for not
worshipping the golden statue that King
Nebuchadnezzar had erected. So serious was the
fire, and so obstinate were they to his demand,
that the crematory was heated seven times more
than normal (Daniel 3:19). The three faithful
Jews were bound so that they could not escape
(Daniel 3:21), and as they were thrown in, some
of the soldiers guarding them were actually
killed by flames coming out of the oven (Daniel
3:23). As they are cast into the fire, King
Nebuchadnezzar makes some startling
observations.
“Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astounded and
stood up in haste; he said to his high
officials, ‘Was it not three men we cast bound
into the midst of the fire?’ They replied to the
king, ‘Certainly, O king.’ He said, ‘Look! I see
four men loosed and walking
about in the midst of the fire without harm, and the
appearance of the fourth is like a son of
the
gods!’”
It is not difficult at all to see how a
supernatural being saved Shadrach, Meshach, and
Abed-nego from certain doom in the furnace.
Jewish Bible translations render v. 25 with
either “the fourth looks like a divine being” (NJPS)
or “the appearance of the fourth [one] is like
an angel's” (ATS). But what is specifically
meant by the Aramaic clause l’var-Elahin
(!yhla-rbl)?
The Septuagint translators could not agree, with
one LXX version rendering it
angelou Theou
(aggelou
qeou)
or “angel of God,” and then another with
huiō
Theou (uiw
qeou)
or “son of God.”
Older English translations like the KJV employ
“Son of God,” and hence various interpreters
have concluded that not just any supernatural
being was present with the three faithful Jews
in the fiery furnace—but that it was a
pre-Incarnate manifestation of Yeshua the
Messiah. Most modern English translations today
render l’var-Elahin in Daniel 3:25 as
“like a son of the gods” (i.e., RSV, NASU, NIV,
HCSB) or “the appearance of a god” (NRSV). It is
often translated this way not necessarily to
discount Yeshua as the Son of God, but rather to
consider the vantage point of the person who
made this declaration: the pagan King
Nebuchadnezzar. Nebuchadnezzar would have
thought of any supernatural being as just
another deity, because it is not until the
narrative of Daniel 4 that he had his
significant counter with the One True God.
When he saw Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego
saved from the fiery furnace, Nebuchadnezzar
would have had no comprehension of a Messiah to
come, or any Savior/Redeemer figure prophesied
to rescue Israel as seen in the Tanach. King
Nebuchadnezzar was simply a person in history
who witnessed God’s deliverance in action. Based
on his statements, it is not incorrect to
conclude that this bar-Elahin was in fact
a pre-Incarnate manifestation of
the Son of
God, Yeshua the Messiah. Yet when this took
place, the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, armed
nothing with nothing more than his pagan
theology, would not have understood this.
posted 26 June, 2009
Death, for Believers: What do you believe happens when born again Believers die?
We believe that the disembodied consciousnesses of Believers who
die in the faith are transported to Heaven to be
with the Lord. This is fully consistent with
what the Apostles write to us in the Messianic
Scriptures and the beliefs of First Century
Pharisaical Judaism, which largely advocated an
intermediate afterlife prior to the
resurrection. As Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians
5:8, “we
are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to
be absent from the body and to be at home with
the Lord.” The Greek verb that Paul uses for “be at home with,”
endēmeō
(endhmew),
actually means “To be at home, to be present in
any place or with any person,” relating to “one
who is at home with...or among his own people” (AMG).[a]
Being separated from one’s physical body thus
requires a Believer to be present with the Lord.
Paul also writes in Philippians 1:23, “But
I am hard-pressed from both directions,
having the desire to depart and be with Messiah,
for that is very much better,” but
expressing his need to remain on Earth a little
longer to perform the Lord’s work. Further on in this same epistle, Paul writes
that “our citizenship is in heaven, from which
also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord
Yeshua the Messiah” (Philippians 3:20). He wants
to die and be in the presence of His Savior, yet
clearly recognizes how Yeshua will ultimately
come to restore the Earth. The Believer’s
ultimate place of residence is not a Heaven far
off in the sky, but in the restored Kingdom of
God on Earth. Heaven is the intermediate place
to be with the Lord prior to the resurrection of
a Believer’s body.
As a ministry, we fully denounce any form of “soul sleep” for the
righteous, as it is only the Believer’s dead
body that is “asleep,” awaiting for
reunification with the consciousness at the
resurrection. We fully affirm the reality of
a bodily resurrection! An intermediate
afterlife assures us beyond any doubt that the
person who is resurrected, is the same authentic
person who had lived a life on Earth—and not
some replica or facsimile of the person.
Those in the Messianic community who believe in “soul sleep” often
base it on half-verses such as Ecclesiastes
9:5b, which says “the
dead do not know anything.” Yet this is not
definitive evidence of no conscious afterlife,
as the verse continues describing human life on
Earth, and how the dead do not know of any
Earth-bound things: “their memory is forgotten.
Indeed their love, their hate and their zeal
have already perished, and they will no longer
have a share in all that is done under the sun”
(Ecclesiastes 9:5c-6). Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 does
not say anything about the condition of dead
persons or where they are, but instead lists
specific things that they cannot do because they
are dead. These are things that these people had
time to participate in on Earth or “under the
sun” (Heb. tachat ha’shamesh,
vmVh txT),
but cannot participate in beyond the veil of
death, hence not “knowing” about them.
It is insufficient for any interpreter, as can
be quite commonplace among Messianic advocates
of “soul sleep,” to only consider references in
the Tanach without also weighing them with
statements in the Apostolic Scriptures. The
Tanach really does not even ask the question
about life after death, because it is more
widely concerned with the corporate
nature of God’s people and their conduct on
Earth, whereas questions of an afterlife are
widely individualistic. Because the
Tanach does not really ask the question, it is
not addressed to the same degree as it is in the
Apostolic Scriptures. But still, that does not
mean that the Tanach is entirely silent about an
afterlife. One cannot really “die,” and then be
“gathered to his people” (Genesis 25:8; 35:29;
49:33; Numbers 20:24, 26; Deuteronomy 32:50),
unless one is gathered somewhere. It by
no means speaks exclusively of internment in a
family tomb. When Jacob died, he “was gathered
to his people” (Genesis 49:33), but he was not
actually buried for quite some time (Genesis
50:2-14). Moses is said to have been “gathered
to your people” (Deuteronomy 32:50), but he was
interred in an unmarked gravesite (Deuteronomy
34:6), certainly not being united with his
ancestors’ remains in a family tomb.
There are certainly strong clues given in the
Tanach of a temporary, disembodied state as one
of the “shades” in Sheol or the netherworld
(i.e., Isaiah 14:9).
The development of a theology of afterlife
across the Biblical period is no more irregular
or strange than the development of Messianism,
which took multiple millennia (cf. Hebrews
1:1-2), or even the doctrine of resurrection
itself which is scantly alluded to
directly
in the Tanach (Daniel 12:1-2). All three of
these strata largely came to their peak in
Pharisaic Judaism, which significantly affected
the development of the early Messianic movement.
For a further discussion of this issue, consult the editor’s
articles “To
Be Absent From the Body”
and “Why
Hell Must Be Eternal.”
Also recommended are the books
Death and the
Afterlife by Robert A. Morey, and
Body,
Soul & Life Everlasting by John W. Cooper.
NOTES
[a]
Zodhiates, Complete Word Study
Dictionary: New Testament, 585.
updated 06 May, 2008
Death, as an unconscious sleep:
Death is described as a sleep in the Bible.
Would this not imply complete unconsciousness
until the resurrection?
Those who advocate a conscious, disembodied,
post-mortem state for the deceased between death
and the resurrection, usually have to deal with
proponents of psychopannychy, more commonly
known as “soul sleep.” Psychopannychists believe
that between death and the resurrection, the
human person exists in a completely unconscious
state. They often claim strong support for this
from a variety of Biblical passages that
describe the deceased as existing in a condition
of “sleep.” These include, but are not limited
to:
“Many of those who sleep in the dust of the
ground will awake, these to everlasting
life, but the others to disgrace
and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2).
“Consider and answer me, O
Lord
my God; enlighten my eyes, or I will sleep
the sleep of death” (Psalm 13:3).
“This He said, and after that He said to
them, ‘Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep;
but I go, so that I may awaken him out of
sleep’” (John 11:11).
“Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not
all sleep, but we will all be changed” (1
Corinthians 15:51).
“For if we believe that Yeshua died and rose
again, even so God will bring with Him those
who have fallen asleep in Yeshua” (1
Thessalonians 4:14).[a]
Does the description of the deceased as
“sleeping” really mean complete unconsciousness?
It should certainly go without saying that it is
entirely inappropriate to equate any
human death labeled as “sleep” as being the same
as putting an animal suffering great pain, “to
sleep.” It should also not escape our notice
that when people go to sleep every night, they
are most always not entirely unconscious; for
the most part those who get a normal 6-8 hours
of sleep at night are semi-conscious,
experiencing a degree of either dreaming and/or
other mental activity. Among people today when
they use colloquial expressions like “I want to
go to sleep and not wake up,” it is does at all
mean that they desire to fall asleep and just
die, as much as it means that people do not want
insomnia and they want to get a full night’s
rest. Likewise, with any living person in a
condition of “rest” today, in largely being just
inactive or trying to do very little in terms of
activity, such a state of “rest” can by no means
be used as a support for complete
unconsciousness. Sitting on a lounge chair near
a beach or a pool, in an exotic
location—“resting”—by no means requires a total
unawareness of one’s surroundings.
What is the vantage point of “sleep” for the
deceased really intended to convey to other
living persons, especially survivors of those
who have lost a loved one? Might a description
of sleep actually be intended to imply that a
deceased person’s body or mortal remains—while
currently inactive or dormant—will one day be
active again? Frequently, those who believe in a
temporary, disembodied afterlife respond to
psychopannychists’ claim that the deceased being
“asleep” must mean unconsciousness, by saying
that only a deceased person’s
body is
asleep. In the anthropology of Hellenistic or
Platonic dualism, the human body was often
perceived as the prison for the human soul, and
the body was to be cast off at the time of death
as a one-time lodging for a person—often as
trash or garbage to be thrown away (sometimes
cremated and scattered into the wind). In an
anthropology of holistic dualism, the mortal
remains of someone are to be interred in an
honorable manner in either a cemetery, crypt, or
burial vault, and at the time of resurrection
they will be reanimated with the departed
consciousness returning to the body.
Those who believe in a temporary disembodied
afterlife have always been aware of the various
passages in Scripture that describe death as a
“sleep.” The clear challenge, is that the
psychopannychist or “soul sleep” advocate
prefers to set one set of Biblical passages
against another. Those verses that imply some
degree of post-mortem, disembodied conscious
activity for the deceased in another dimension
(i.e., Isaiah 14:9-10; Luke 16:23-31; 2
Corinthians 5:8; Revelation 6:9) have to either
be allegorized or ignored. In many cases,
psychopannychists can be shown in pitting one
selection of Biblical passages against another,
a fairly typical liberal hermeneutic (one which
often takes place in the debate like that over
homosexuality). Responsible, conservative
interpreters are called to hold the integrity of
all Biblical passages together. J.A.
Motyer is right to assert, “the ‘sleep’ metaphor
must be balanced by those other descriptions
which imply a conscious, living state,”[b]
after the time of a person’s death and before
resurrection.
While advocates of soul sleep are keen to ignore
or radically rework the implication of verses
such as “we are of good courage, I say, and
prefer rather to be absent from the body and to
be at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8),
or “I am hard-pressed from both
directions,
having the desire to depart and be with Messiah,
for that is very much better”
(Philippians 1:23), those who believe in a
temporary, disembodied afterlife—especially for
the redeemed in Heaven—before the resurrection,
do not so easily try to dismiss the various
passages describing death as “sleep.” In the
estimation of N.T. Wright,
“Though [death] is sometimes described as sleep,
we shouldn’t take this to mean that it is a
state of unconsciousness. Had Paul thought that,
I very much doubt that he would have described
life immediately after death as ‘being with
Christ, which is far better’ [Philippians 1:23].
Rather, sleep here means that the
body
is ‘asleep’ in the sense of ‘dead,’ while the
real person—however we want to describe him or
her—continues.”[c]
Wright also observes how,
“[S]ome interpreters…speak of ‘the sleep of the
soul’, a time of unconscious post-mortem
existence prior to the reawakening of the
resurrection….In fact, if we were speaking
strictly, we should say that it is the
body
that ‘sleeps’ between death and resurrection;
but in all probability Paul is using the
language of sleeping and waking simply as a way
of contrasting a state of temporary inactivity,
not necessarily unconsciousness, with a
subsequent one of new activity.”[d]
Principally, the description of death being like
“sleep” is to largely serve as comfort to a
survivor who has lost a loved one. When the
corpse of a family member or friend is viewed
(at least for identification purposes) for the
final time before internment (frequently by the
custom of “visitation”), the deceased person’s
body is to be still very much be treated as
“him” or “her,” even though the consciousness
has left for another dimension (hopefully
being with the Lord in Heaven). Realizing that a
body is “asleep,” should cause those who are
left behind to treat it with great respect and
dignity, as such a body will most certainly live
again at the resurrection! The closest that any
survivor can get to a departed loved one is,
after all, his or her burial site in a cemetery.
In terms of what a deceased person actually does
after death, in a disembodied condition in
another dimension, the Scriptures tell us very
little about. Various clues present in the Word
do suggest that the deceased do exist in some
kind of restful or semi-conscious mode. When the
spirit of Samuel is called up from the
netherworld, Samuel’s statement “Why have you
disturbed me by bringing me up?” (1 Samuel
28:15), is an indication that while in Sheol he
was doing very little, although he was not
totally unaware of his surroundings. Likewise,
when the departed king of Babylon is cast out of
his tomb and into Sheol, he is told, “Sheol
beneath is stirred up to meet you when you come,
it rouses the shades to greet you” (Isaiah 14:9,
RSV). The various kings who preceded the
Babylonian monarch in death are not unconscious,
but neither are they as active as they would
have been on Earth during their reigns. Even in
the account of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke
16:19-31, the righteous deceased in Abraham’s
bosom do not seem to be doing that much,
although they are in a conscious condition of
rest and refreshment and pleasantness.
All of this should lead us to conclude that
while a deceased person’s body or mortal remains
are “asleep” somewhere on Earth until the
resurrection, the departed consciousnessness of
the deceased are likely in some kind of
semi-conscious condition—but not one where all
activity and contemplation have ceased. The
observation of Qohelet is, “for there is no
activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in
Sheol where you are going” (Ecclesiastes 9:10),
principally because all of the Earth-bound
opportunities to work, plan for a future,
receive an education, and become wise via
experience will all be over. This is
precisely because the deceased “will no longer
have a share in all that is done under the sun”
(Ecclesiastes 9:6), meaning life on Earth.
Whether one goes to an intermediate Heaven or
Hell prior to the resurrection, neither the
righteous or unrighteous have to work to make a
living for themselves, or hold down a job to pay
bills. Bruce Milne’s observations concur that
this involves,
“[R]est from labour, easing of responsibility,
abstraction from immediate involvement in
events, a different kind of awareness and,
perhaps most important of all, the certainty of
reawakening at a future point. While not saying
everything, it draws attention to the relative
passivity of the intermediate state.”[e]
Why psychopannychists strongly insist, if not
contentiously protest sometimes, that death is
an unconscious sleep—when there are various
Biblical examples available of post-mortem,
disembodied conscious activity—is largely
unknown. We cannot fully ascertain their
spiritual motives, if they truly are Believers
in Yeshua, why when they die they do not want to
be immediately transported into the presence of
the Messiah in Heaven.[f]
Theologically speaking, though, when
psychopannychists strongly insist that death is
a completely unconscious sleep until the
resurrection, and that humans are entirely
physical beings with no compositional connection
to another dimension, it is easy to see that
they are not as careful as they should be in
supplying various “proof texts” for their
position. Some of the passages provided to
support that “death is an unconscious sleep” can
actually be interpreted as being
anti-resurrection, the very doctrine that
they think they are trying to defend:
“By the sweat of your face You will eat
bread, till you return to the ground,
because from it you were taken; for you are
dust, and to dust you shall return” (Genesis
3:19).
“So man lies down and does not rise. Until
the heavens are no longer, he will not awake
nor be aroused out of his sleep. Oh that You
would hide me in Sheol, that You would
conceal me until Your wrath returns
to
You, that You would set a limit for me
and remember me!” (Job 14:12-13).
“Thus He remembered that they were but
flesh, a wind that passes and does not
return” (Psalm 78:39).
“‘When they become heated up, I will serve
them their banquet and make them
drunk, that they may become jubilant and may
sleep a perpetual sleep and not wake up,’
declares the
Lord.
I will bring them down like lambs to the
slaughter, like rams together with male
goats” (Jeremiah 51:39-40).
No advocate of “soul sleep,” who to their strong
credit does affirm a doctrine of future bodily
resurrection, would say that a claim such as,
“people are laid to rest and do not rise again”
(Job 14, NLT) or “sleep forever [sh’nat-olam,
~l[-tnv]
and not awake” (Jeremiah 51:39, NIV), are
definitive statements to be read isolated from
the remainder of the Scriptures. If taken by
itself, a passage like Jeremiah 51:39
could
be read as being anti-resurrection. But in this
case, the fact that Babylon is the subject
(Jeremiah 51:37), and its judgment is is view,
needs to be kept in mind. Likewise, what is
likely to suffer from a never-ending sleep is
the Babylonian Empire, as opposed to the
individuals in the Babylonian army, its
aristocracy, or its royal court. Still, the
point should be taken that a simplistic reading
of Scripture passages is not warranted, as those
who believe in a disembodied afterlife prior to
the resurrection have not just picked through
passages that support their position, while
ignoring verses that describe death as a
condition of “sleep.”
Those who are sincerely convicted that the Bible
teaches a conscious, disembodied intermediate
state between death and the resurrection, are
aware of how many details are
not given
to us of this time (aside from being with the
Lord like 2 Corinthians 5:8 or Philippians 1:23,
or returning with the Lord from Heaven like 1
Thessalonians 3:13). Specific factors of
the intermediate state not communicated to us
are not at all to be interpreted as some kind of
a denial of it, but are to support the reality
that individuals living on Planet Earth today
serving God, are to reach out
in total
faith toward Him—in both prayer and
action—and are largely prohibited to contemplate
what their deceased loved ones who knew Him are
presently doing in Heaven (cf. Leviticus 20:27;
Deuteronomy 18:11), other than being a part of
the company of appeal that demands a soon return
of Yeshua to the Earth (cf. Revelation 6:9-10).
To a degree, the condition of our departed loved
ones in Heaven might be semi-conscious, because
for the redeemed it is to certainly be a period
of rest and refreshment (cf. Luke 23:43). For
the righteous, the intermediate condition of
their bodies or mortal remains is something akin
to “sleeping” on Earth, and it is surely also
not to be a time of “work” in Heaven. In our
limited human language, our departed loves ones
who knew the Lord and are presently with Him in
Heaven, are—for lack of better
terminology—probably on a kind of “extended
vacation.” When the Scriptures describe death as
a “sleep” for Messiah followers, it is with the
expressed intention to demonstrate that God is
not at all finished with the human body or
mortal remains, and that such a body will surely
be awakened and reanimated at the time of the
Messiah’s return.
This should not only encourage those who have to
deal with the death of a loved one to treat his
or her corpse with respect, but also
recognize—above all else—that the return of
Yeshua to the Earth not only insures survivors
that they will be able to embrace the body of a
loved one again, but that all of the physical
promises of a restored Israel will be
accomplished. More than anything else, the
future resurrection of the dead is proof that
the Lord Yeshua’s Millennial Kingdom will
establish Jerusalem as the capital of Planet
Earth, defeating all of Israel’s enemies,
and
that Messiah followers will not just move from
death to a pleasant and peaceful condition in
His presence after death, with nothing else to
really follow.
NOTES
[a]
To these passages can be added: 1 Kings
2:10; 11:43; 14:31; Matthew 27:52; Acts
7:60; 13:36; 1 Corinthians 15:6, 18, 20;
2 Peter 3:4.
[b]
J.A. Motyer,
After
Death: What Happens When You Die? (Fearn,
UK: Christian Focus Publications, 1996),
107.
[c]
N.T. Wright,
Surprised
by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the
Resurrection, and the Mission of the
Church (New York: HarperCollins,
2008), 171.
[d]
N.T. Wright,
The
Resurrection of the Son of God
(Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2003),
216.
[e]
Bruce Milne,
The
Message of Heaven & Hell (Downers
Grove, IL: InterVarsity, 2002), 172.
[f]
Be sure to consult the
FAQ “Afterlife,
negates need for resurrection.”
posted 29 March, 2011
Denying Messiah: Why do you think there are people in the Messianic movement today,
who are denying Yeshua as the Messiah?
It needs to be remembered that denial of the
Lord Yeshua (Jesus) has been occurring for
centuries, although in today’s Messianic
movement, it does often sit a little too close
to home because of our small size.
There are a variety of reasons why some people
in the Messianic movement are denying Yeshua as
the Messiah. The first reason is that apostasy
from the faith is prophesied to take place in
the Last Days (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4).[a]
The second reason is that there are a variety of
deceptive books and websites, labeled as being
“Messianic,” which (deliberately) plant seeds of
doubt into the minds of people. The third reason
is that it is likely that many people who are
denying Yeshua’s Divinity,[b]
and then His Messiahship,[c]
never truly knew Him as their Personal
Savior.
One pattern that is very dangerous is the idea that one must
“question everything.” While there should surely
be wisdom and discernment exercised when
approaching a topic or issue, many of those who
teach that one must “question everything” have
not considered the full ramifications of what
they say. Eventually a person will ask questions
that cannot be answered, and the result can be a
denial of Yeshua and ultimately denial of the
existence of God as Creator. The Biblical
pattern is not to “question everything,”
but rather to seek confirmation of an important
matter (Deuteronomy 17:16; 19:15; Matthew 18:16;
2 Corinthians 13:1; Titus 5:19; Hebrews 10:28).
NOTES
updated
31 August,
2011
Deuteronomy 6:25:
I heard a Messianic teacher say that if I keep
the Torah perfectly not only will I be able to
be saved, I will also be able to never get sick
or die of diseases like cancer? Can you help
clarify this for me?
In Deuteronomy 6:24-25, one finds a statement of commitment made on
the part of the Ancient Israelites. They declare
before God,
“So
the Lord
commanded us to observe all these statutes, to
fear the Lord our God for our good always and for our survival, as
it is today. It will be righteousness for us
if we are careful to observe all this
commandment before the
Lord
our God, just as He commanded us.”
V. 24 makes the obvious observation that God’s
commandments are obeyed “for our lasting good
and for our survival” (NJPS), or “so that we
might always prosper and be kept alive” (NIV).
This is because the Torah provides safeguards
that are intended to keep God’s people secure
and industrious, thus allowing them to live
lives where they can prosper. And truly, any
society that has taken the Torah’s code of
ethics and morality to serious heart has
benefited immensely from what it is intended to
provide.
V. 25 is a bit more complicated, as the Ancient Israelites do say
to the Lord u’tzedaqah tih’yeh lanu (WnL-hyhT
hqdcW),
“and righteousness it is for us” (YLT) if they
were to observe all of God’s commandments. To
some people, this might present the opportunity
that if one were to observe all of God’s
commandments, then it is possible to be
righteous on the basis of such Torah-keeping or
Law-keeping. Yet, if this is a possibility, then
it is also notable that nowhere in Biblical
history was Ancient Israel ever able to do
this. The testimony of the Tanach (and even much
of the Torah itself) is clear evidence that a
fallen human person is incapable of living up to
the requirement of v. 25 (cf. Psalm
14:1-3; 53:1-3; Romans 3:10).
This is why a Divine Redeemer, Yeshua the
Messiah, is understood in Romans 10:4 to be the
telos…nomou…eis dikaiosunēn (teloß…nomou…eiß
dikaiosunhn)
or “the goal of the Torah for righteousness”
(editor’s translation). Those desiring the
righteousness the Torah requires of God’s people
must look to Yeshua as the source (Philippians
3:9).
There is another view of Deuteronomy 6:25 which need not be
overlooked. The Hebrew tzedaqah (hqdc) or “righteousness” has corporate
dimensions that concern all of God’s people.
Having tzedaqah in this case would not
regard being individually “righteous” or
“justified,” but simply being in covenant
membership with the Lord and with other members
of His community. TWOT explains some
often overlooked aspects of this term,
“The
covenant or theocratic aspect involves the
nation of Israel, the covenant requires
obedience to God by the nation and is the way of
his people (Psa 1:1-6; Deut 6:25), a way of
righteousness. God is righteous, under the
covenant, when he delivers his people from
trouble (Psa 31:1), their enemies (Psa 5:8), the
wicked (Psa 37:6) and when he is vindicating
Israel before her foes or executing vengeance on
them (Jer 11:20). It is appropriate that Israel
be assured of ultimate victory over her foes (Isa
54:14-17). In this last event the Lord is both
righteous and the savior (Isa 45:21).”
From this point of view, the affirmation on Israel’s part to keep
the Torah’s commandments is a reflection on the
fact that they will be identified as God’s
people by their obedience to Him. By obeying
God’s commandments, the Torah was to provide
Israel with a society that was safe and
prosperous and thus have “righteousness”—a
corporate identification of being His people and
being preserved by Him.
Any Messianic teacher today who says that individuals can be
righteous just by keeping the Torah is ignoring
the whole of Scripture. While the standard of
obeying God perfectly is placed before us, it is
not something that fallen man is capable of
doing. This does not mean that such a standard
should be ignored, but it undoubtedly forces
us to Yeshua because of our human incapacity to
keep it perfectly.
Perhaps what has been avoided more than anything else, is how the
righteousness of Deuteronomy 6:25 is to be
manifested on a corporate scale. Is today’s
Messianic movement desiring to be a faith
community where the shalom of the Lord
prevails, and we can live out all of those
imperatives that the Torah calls us to? This is
a question that often goes unasked in today’s
Messianic world. If we were to have this status,
then we would be far more united as His people,
and far more cognizant of the significant issues
in the Torah that we often avoid but the world
certainly needs to be made aware of.
NOTES
[a] Harold
G. Stigers, “qdc,”
in TWOT, 2:754.
posted 13 August, 2008
Dictionaries/Lexicons: Can you recommend any specific Hebrew and Greek dictionaries or
lexicons I can use in my Bible studies?
There are many varied Hebrew and Greek lexicons available, some of
them are excellent, others are good, and then
some are substandard. As a lay person, there are
some which we recommend that you have that can
be fairly easy to use without extensive Hebrew
or Greek training.
Two widely available Hebrew and Greek dictionaries, that you should
have in your library, are Brown-Driver-Briggs
Hebrew and English Lexicon (BDB) and
Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New
Testament (Thayer). These two lexicons, even
though they are about 100 years old, offer
standard definitions and usages of Hebrew and
Greek words. Newer editions of them are keyed to
Strong’s Concordance numbers, which should make
words easier to find than having to look them up
in alphabetical order in either Hebrew or Greek.
A valuable Hebrew resource that we recommend is the
Theological
Wordbook of the Old Testament (TWOT), which
is extremely thorough in its explanation of
Hebrew words. Another commonly used resource is
Vine’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old
& New Testament Words. With
Vine,
words can be easily looked up as English
references, with various Hebrew or Greek
equivalents listed under them.
Two other valuable resources that we recommend are the
Word
Study Dictionary: Old Testament, and
Word
Study Dictionary: New Testament, both
produced by AMG Publishers. They are quite
easily to use if you are untrained in the
Biblical languages.
For those, however, who want to use the premier Hebrew and Greek
lexicons available today, please note that they
require a working knowledge of the Biblical
languages. A Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of
the Old Testament (HALOT) by Koehler and
Baumgartner has been recently republished in a
2-volulme student size edition, and works well
with A Concise Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of
the Old Testament (CHALOT) edited by
Holladay. The best Greek lexicon on the market
today by far is A Greek-English Lexicon of
the New Testament and Other Early Christian
Literature (Bauer, Danker, Ardt, Gingrich)
or BDAG. Lidell & Scott’s
Greek-English Lexicon is also a valuable
resource, although its primary focus is on
non-Biblical Greek literature. All of these
lexicons require you to look up the words
alphabetically in Hebrew or Greek.
Consult the editor’s article “Getting
Beyond Strong’s Concordance”
for further details.
updated 16 November, 2006
Dietary Laws, Kosher: Do you believe that the dietary commandments of Leviticus 11 and
Deuteronomy 14 are still applicable to
Believers?
Messianic Believers think that in obedience to God we should follow
the Biblical dietary commandments that He has
laid out in His Word—and that they were not
annulled by Yeshua the Messiah or the Apostles,
nor in the vision of the Apostle Peter in Acts
10. Although eating kosher is not an issue of
salvation, it is an area of belief where the
Messianic movement does run contrary to the
position of mainstream Christianity.
For a further study into this issue, and a response to the claims
against eating kosher, we recommend that you
consult the editor’s articles “To
Eat or Not to Eat?” and “How
Do We Properly Keep Kosher?”
updated 16 November, 2006
Doctors, and Modern Medicine: I have encountered some teachings from Messianics which condemn
the usage of modern medicine. What is your
opinion on this? Do you have a problem with
Believers consulting modern medical doctors?
Those who do not consult medical doctors, be they Messianic
or
Christian, often do so from the theological
presupposition that going to the doctor is a
so-called “lack of faith,” and that all physical
problems are likely caused by one’s spiritual
condition. These beliefs or opinions are usually
those of a small few, and do not by any means
represent a majority in the Messianic movement.
As a ministry, we do not condemn consulting
medical doctors or modern medicine. Luke
himself, author of the Gospel of Luke and the
Book of Acts, was a medical doctor. It is for
that reason why in his Gospel he painstakingly
describes the physical act of the crucifixion of
Yeshua.
With this said, while we would never condemn anyone for consulting
a medical doctor, it is safe to say that not all
physical ailments need be remedied with modern
medicine. Eating properly and exercising
regularly are absolutely needed for proper
health, and are often the solution for many
problems that some believe will only be solved
by a “pill.”
updated 16 November, 2006
Dreams and Visions: What is your position on dreams and visions?
Joel 2:28 clearly tells us that in the Last Days the Lord will pour
out His Spirit upon “all flesh/mankind,” but yet
we also know that there will be intense
deception and apostasy. Many have claimed to see
visions, dreams, give prophecies, etc. of the
Last Days outside that of the Biblical canon.
Unfortunately for such individuals, most
extra-Biblical prophecies of the end-times
statistically do not come to pass, and many
espoused “dreams or visions from God” are not
Scripturally sound.
While we do believe that God will pour out His Spirit on His
people, we question many of those who claim to
have prophetic dreams or visions. When someone’s
dream or vision does not come to pass as a
person predicts, that person may claim to have
had another vision in which the Lord “showed
them” that predicted events would occur on
another date on which nothing happens.
Many get into the pattern of believing that every dream that they
have at night is prophetic, which we should
highly question. We have serious reservations
when dealing with those who claim to have dreams
or visions, as many regard their prophecies to
be at the level of, or even above the Bible,
which is highly dangerous.
We as Believers have enough Bible prophecy to concern ourselves
with in Scripture itself; we do not need
additional “revelation.” Most dreams are simply
mental digestion of what people are thinking and
have nothing to do with prophecy.
updated 16 November, 2006
Dualism:
Is it not true that the idea of an intermediate
afterlife in Heaven or Hell is predicated on
dualism? Is it not true that dualism was a
philosophical view that originated with the
Greeks, and not with Scripture?
In much of today’s Messianic community, is it
very easy for a leader or teacher to claim that
a theological idea—particularly an accepted
tenet of mainstream Christianity—is somehow
“Hellenistic” or “Greek,” and simply
by
saying this people will reject it. What will
often follow on the part of an audience is no
critical thinking or analysis, but just
accepting a person’s biased opinion, which
itself was likely intended to monger fear or
inflame prejudice. In the case of anyone who
believes in a disembodied, intermediate state
for human beings between death and the
resurrection, it is true that he has to believe
in some kind of dualism to posit post-mortem
survival of one’s consciousness. Whether this is
exactly what the Ancient Greeks actually
believed, though, requires some review and
consideration of what various figures from
classical history actually thought.
What is the Greek philosophical concept of the
“immortality of the soul” that is so criticized
by opponents of dualism? Do keep in mind that
ancient philosophical groups like the Epicureans
(cf. Acts 17:18) did not believe in any kind of
an afterlife, much less a resurrection (just
like the Jewish Sadducees). No different than
various atheists or agnostics today who believe
that death is the total end of a person’s
existence, so were there many Greeks and Romans
in the First Century world of the Apostles who
believed the same. To say that all Greeks
believed in a disembodied afterlife would be
historically inaccurate.[a]
But among those who did believe in a disembodied
afterlife, what was specifically adhered to?
There is actually a rather huge difference
between Believers today who affirm a
temporary disembodied state for people
between death and the resurrection—and Platonic
dualism, as taught by the Hellenistic
philosopher Plato, successor of Socrates. In a
review of ancient classical sources, both prior
to and following the time of Yeshua and the
Apostles, it is easy to detect how Platonic
dualism advocated that the soul of a person was
trapped inside the prison of the body. Death
meant an escape from such a prison. N.T. Wright
views the following quotations below as being
“Classic statements” on how in classical
philosophy “the immortal soul is set free from
the prison-house of the physical body.”[b]
“But, I suppose, if at the time of its
release the soul is tainted and impure,
because it has always associated with the
body and cared for it and loved it, and has
been so beguiled by the body and its
passions and pleasures that nothing seems
real to it but those physical things which
can be touched and seen and eaten and drunk
and used for sexual enjoyment, making it
accustomed to hate and fear and avoid what
is invisible and obscure to our eyes, but
intelligible and comprehensible by
philosophy—if the soul is in this state, do
you think that it will be released just by
itself, uncontaminated?” (Plato
Phaedo
81b).[c]
“Now the earthly likeness of justice and
self-discipline and all the other forms
which are precious to souls keep no luster,
and there are few who by the use of their
feeble faculties and with great difficulty
can recognize in the counterfeits the family
likeness of the originals. But beauty was
once ours to see in all its brightness, when
in the company of the blessed we followed
Zeus as others followed some other of the
Olympians, to enjoy the beautific vision and
to be initiated into that mystery which
brings, we may say with reverence, supreme
felicity. Whole were we celebrated into that
festival, unspotted by all the evils which
awaited us in time to come, and whole and
unspotted and changeless and serene were the
objects revealed to us in the light of that
mystic vision. Pure was the light and pure
were we from the pollution of the walking
sepulchre we call a body, to which we are
bound like an oyster to its shell” (Plato
Phaedrus 250c).[d]
“For some say that the body is the grave (sema)
of the soul which may be thought to be
buried in our present life; or again the
index of the soul, because the soul gives
indications to (semainei) the body; probably
the Orphic poets were the inventors of the
name, and they were under the impression
that the soul is suffering the punishment of
sin, and that the body is an enclosure or
prison in which the soul is incarcerated,
kept safe (soma, sozetai), as the name soma
implies, until the penalty is paid” (Plato
Cratylus 400c).[e]
“Never value anything as profitable that
compels you to break your promise, to lose
your self-respect, to hate any man, to
suspect, to curse, to act the hypocrite, to
desire anything that needs walls and
curtains: for he who has preferred to
everything else his own intelligence and
daimon and the worship of its excellence,
acts no tragic part, does not groan, will
not need either solitude or much company;
and, what is chief of all, he will live
without either pursuing or flying from
death; but whether for a longer or shorter
time he shall have the soul enclosed in the
body, he cares not at all: for even if he
must depart immediately, he will go as
readily as if he were going to do anything
else that can be done with descency and
order; taking care of this only all through
life, that his thoughts abide with the
concerns of an intelligent animal and a
member of a civil community” (Marcus
Aurelius Meditations 3.7).[f]
It is most doubtful that any Messianic Believer
who has been told to regard all forms of dualism
as something “Greek” and “evil,” has ever really
seen a series of relevant quotes from ancient
sources. Platonic dualism is something that
clearly goes against the Biblical truth of God’s
physical Creation being good (Genesis 1:31),
which most especially includes how His people
are to enjoy eating good food, drinking wine and
spirits, a husband and wife taking pleasure in
sexual intercourse, and being in awe of the
flora and fauna. Platonic dualism leaves open
the definite possibility of reincarnation of
souls into other bodies after death,[g]
although the Biblical message is that human life
begins in the womb (Psalm 139:13)—with the
ultimate end for a Believer’s redemption being a
permanently embodied condition at the Second
Coming (i.e., Philippians 3:21-22; 1 John 3:2).
Some kind of dualism is required for us to make
proper sense out of Biblical passages where
deceased persons are depicted in some kind of
disembodied, post-mortem, conscious and active
condition (i.e., Isaiah 14:9-10; Luke 16:23-31;
2 Corinthians 5:8; Revelation 6:9). The dualism
presented to us in the Bible of disembodied
activity, largely in Heaven,
need not at all
imply a degradation of the physical body or of
the great beauties of Planet Earth—both of which
God has made as a testament to His power. The
body is by no means a prison in which the soul
is trapped as a kind of prison, especially if
the ultimate aim of salvation is to see its
redemption (Romans 8:23).
Any advocates of Platonic dualism among the
Believers in the First Century, would be easily
refuted by the Apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians
5:1-4, where he asserts that he would prefer to
be further clothed/clothed upon—something to
take place at the Second Coming—rather than die
and be found naked or bodiless. The more likely
condition for most Believers, though, has been
the nakedness brought on by death, although he
is clear to state that such a condition will
mean being present with the Lord (2 Corinthians
5:6-8). Yet, no reader of Paul’s letters or the
Bible should ever assume that a disembodied
condition is permanent. In his commentary on 2
Corinthians (NIGTC), Murray J. Harris
properly details,
“Paul may be repudiating the view of the
hereafter held by the precursors of Gnosticism
at Corinth (1 Cor. 15:12), who appear to have
taught, as a corollary of baptismal
resurrection, that the Christian hope consisted
primarily of emancipation from corporeal
defilement. Similarly, in v. 3 may be Paul’s
rebuttal of the fallacious deduction made by
these Corinthian ‘proto-gnostics’ that the
expression
endusasqai aqanasian
[endusasthai athanasian] (‘to put on
immortality’) used in 1 Cor. 15:53-54 implied
that the believer’s final destiny was
disembodied immortality.”[h]
Harris goes on to further detail how Paul does
affirm a disembodied condition for the redeemed
in the Messiah’s presence, although this is only
temporary, until the resurrection. His comments
are clear that even though Paul held to some
dualistic presuppositions, they would be a far
cry from the common Platonic views:
“Although Paul did not share the Orphic
sentiment
swma shma
[sōma sēma] (‘the body is a tomb’) and
although he never envisioned the Christian
summum bonum as emancipation from
corporeality, apparently he could conceive of
temporary disembodiment (cf. 12:2-3) as the lot
of believers who die before the second
advent…Paul must have believed in
the…safekeeping of believers as, in a bodiless
state, they await the resurrection: they are in
active communion with Christ in his immediate
presence (v. 8b).”[i]
Any kind of dualism seen or implied in the
Scriptures, affirming a temporary separation of
a person’s consciousness from the body until the
resurrection, runs into significant conflict
with Platonic dualism. For the most part, the
Hellenistic dualism seen in the philosophers
advocated permanent disembodiment.
Contrary to this, the dualism present in the
Bible advocates temporary disembodiment
to be followed by the total integration of the
person in the resurrection. John W. Cooper,
author of the book Body, Soul, & Life
Everlasting, has helped to label how the
Bible advocates holistic dualism. He
states that “the Hebrew view of human nature
strongly emphasizes living a full and integrated
existence before God in this world, but that it
unquestionably also includes the belief in
continued existence after biological death.”[j]
Holistic dualism allows for a disembodied
afterlife, but holds resurrection as the
ultimate goal for all people. Holistic dualism
totally eschews any perspective where the human
body is to somehow be treated as a prison, or
Planet Earth as being something less-than-good
as created by God.
It is unfortunate that there are various
Messianic teachers who operate out of so much of
a spirit of malice and hatred toward either
evangelical Christianity and/or anything that
they perceive as being “Greek,” that in the case
of dualism they often make statements in a
vacuum, with no references or documentation
offered.
It is very true and most unfortunate, that many
popular pastors speak of salvation
only
in terms of “going to Heaven when you die,” and
fail to speak of the subsequent resurrection and
Messianic reign coming to Earth. It is hard to
deny that many of today’s Christians (and even
some Messianics) envision a post-mortem scene
quantitatively indifferent from Platonism. Going
to be with the Lord in Heaven upon time of death
is, incorrectly, thought to be the ultimate
destination—rather than returning with Him to
the Earth to be resurrected as the Second Coming
(cf. 1 Thessalonians 3:13; 4:14). This does need
to be significantly corrected with more of an
emphasis on the future reality of the
resurrection and the world to come. Fair-minded
voices need to come forward where the errors of
Platonic dualism and endless disembodiment can
be replaced, with a correct view of holistic
dualism and temporary disembodiment to be
attended by the resurrection.
While there are various Believers who need to be
corrected from some dualistic errors of Plato,
let us not overlook the monistic errors of the
psychopannychist, who believes that there is
complete unconsciousness between death and the
resurrection. This may be far more serious,
because in treating the human person as
only
being a collection of bones, tissue, and
blood—the psychopannychist is likely to have
been influenced by the materialism of Darwinian
evolution—which is largely not concerned at
regarding human beings as possessing any
component or connection from a Divine Creator
and another dimension.
NOTES
[a]
Consult Ben Witherington III, “A Closer
Look: The Fate of the Dead,” in
1&2
Thessalonians: A Socio-Rhetorical
Commentary (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans,
2006), pp 126-130 for a summary of
various Greek and Roman views on the
afterlife. Notably, only the heroes of
the Hellenistic mythos really had a
chance of going to be with the gods,
whereas most of the deceased went to a
rather gloomy existence in the
netherworld of Hades.
[b]
N.T. Wright,
The
Resurrection of the Son of God
(Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2003), 48.
[c]
Plato:
The Last Days
of Socrates, trans., Hugh Tredennick
and Harold Tarrant (London: Penguin
Books, 1993), 140.
[d]
Plato:
Phaedrus,
trans., Walter Hamilton (Harmondsworth,
UK: Penguin Books, 1995), pp 35-36.
[e]
Plato:
Cratylus,
trans., Benjamin Jowett (Quiet Vision
Publishing, 2004), pp 33-34.
[f]
Marcus Aurelius:
Meditations, ed. William Kaufman (Mineola,
NY: Dover Publications, 1997), 16.
[g]
Plato,
The Last Days
of Socrates, 141.
[h]
Murray J. Harris,
New
International Greek Testament
Commentary: Second Epistle to the
Corinthians (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans,
2005), 389.
[i]
Ibid., 402.
[j]
John W. Cooper,
Body,
Soul & Life Everlasting: Biblical
Anthropology and the Monism-Dualism
Debate (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans,
1989), 40.
posted 29 March, 2011 |