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REVISED EDITION
POSTED
02 OCTOBER, 2005
Is
Being "Taken" Always a Good Thing?
by
J.K. McKee
editor@tnnonline.net
What is truly meant in the Scriptures by “one
will be taken, and one will be left” in what
many consider to be “rapture” passages? Is this
being “taken” a good thing, or a bad thing? Is
it a being “taken” into the clouds to meet the
Lord, or is it a being “taken” to judgment?
The Verses Under Discussion
The primary verses under discussion in relation
to “one will be taken, one will be left” are
Matthew 24:37-42 and Luke 17:34-37. These verses
are translated differently among Bibles, and are
most notably different between the 1995 New
American Standard Update (NASU) and the King
James Version (KJV), the latter of which because
of its long usage throughout the centuries has
helped set many of the “interpretative
standards.” For the interest of fairness in this
discussion, we now quote the Scripture texts
under discussion, first from the KJV and then
from the NASU:
Matthew 24:37-42
KJV:
“But as the days of Noe
were, so
shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
For as in the days that were before the
flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the
day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew
not until the flood came, and took them all
away; so shall also the coming of the Son of
man be. Then shall two be in the field; the
one shall be taken, and the other left. Two
women shall be
grinding at the mill;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour
your Lord doth come.”
NASU:
“For the coming of the Son of Man will be
just like the days of Noah. For as in those
days before the flood they were eating and
drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noah entered the ark, and
they did not understand until the flood came
and took them all away; so will the coming
of the Son of Man be. Then there will be two
men in the field; one will be taken and one
will be left. Two women will be
grinding at the mill; one will be taken and
one will be left. Therefore be on the alert,
for you do not know which day your Lord is
coming.”
Luke 17:34-37
KJV:
“I tell you, in that night there shall be
two men in one bed; the one shall be
taken, and the other shall be left. Two
women shall be grinding together; the
one shall be taken, and the other left. Two
men
shall be in the field; the one
shall be taken, and the other left. And they
answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And
he said unto them, Wheresoever the body
is, thither will the eagles be gathered
together.”
NASU:
“‘I tell you, on that night there will be
two in one bed; one will be taken and the
other will be left. There will be two women
grinding at the same place; one will be
taken and the other will be left.
Two men
will be in the field; one will be taken and
the other will be left.’ And answering
they said to Him, ‘Where, Lord?’ And He said
to them, ‘Where the body
is, there
also the vultures will be gathered.’”
Based on a surface reading of the KJV text, we can see how some
believe that being “taken” is a good thing. But
on the basis of reading the NASU text, being
“taken” appears to be a bad thing. So which
rendering is correct? KJV-Only proponents would
no doubt argue that the KJV is correct and the
NASU, or other modern translations, are being
manipulative. But let us do a more thorough
analysis of the text, based on the best
available scholarship to us at our
disposal—including Greek definitions and
comparative studies that were not available at
the time the KJV was translated in 1611.
What is the debate, specifically?
The debate, as stated before, is whether or not
when Messiah Yeshua says “one will be taken, one
will be left,” it is speaking of people being
taken into the clouds to meet Him at His return
or it is speaking of people being taken to
judgment. The first time I ever heard His
admonition of “one will be taken, one will be
left” being used, was at my Baptist elementary
school many years ago. This school, which was
ardently pre-tribulational and KJV-Only, held
the position that the Messiah was speaking of
the rapture of the saints in these verses. It
was not until I became part of the Messianic
movement in the 1990s, which is largely post-tribulational,
that I was presented with the idea that Yeshua
might be speaking of people being “taken” in a
negative context.
However, it should be noted that the debate
about what these verses really mean is not
limited to pre-tribulationists arguing that when
Yeshua says, “one will be taken, one will be
left” He is speaking of “the rapture.” I
personally found it quite shocking when I read a
statement in a booklet called
The
Post-Tribulation Rapture:
“Pre-tribulationists have claimed that those who
are ‘taken’ are killed in judgment.”[1]
I found this shocking because as a former pre-tribulationist,
I was never taught this. I had always
believed that pre-tribulationists thought that
the Messiah spoke of those “taken” as being “raptured,”
and post-tribulationists thought that those
“taken” are judged and killed. Obviously, in
this assessment I have been wrong.
There are pre-tribulationists who agree with us
that those “taken” are taken to destruction,
just as there are pre-tribulationists and post-tribulationists
who believe that those “taken” are taken up to
be with the Lord. This issue is not necessarily
one of pre- versus post-trib, because there are
pre- and post-tribulationists who agree and
disagree among themselves on the proper handling
of these verses. Although our position is post-tribulational,
there are pre-tribulationists who agree with us
on “one will be taken, one will be left,” and
post-tribulationists who disagree with us.
J.K. McKee
(B.A., University of Oklahoma; M.A., Asbury
Theological Seminary) is the editor of TNN
Online (www.tnnonline.net) and is a Messianic
apologist.
He is a 2009 recipient of the Zondervan Biblical
Languages Award for Greek.
He
is author of
numerous books, dealing with a wide range of
topics that are important for today’s
Messianic Believers. He has also written many articles on
theological issues,
and is presently focusing his attention on Messianic commentaries
of various books of the Bible.
NOTES
[1]
William Arnold, The Post-Tribulation
Rapture (Author: Stockton, CA:
2000), 34.
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